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	<title>Comments on: The pachyderm in the parlour: resisting the legitimation of DTC social media activities in Europe</title>
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		<title>By: Some of the Best Healthcare Blogs and eBooks of 2009 &#124; AdvanceMarketWoRx</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Pachyderm in the Parlour: resisting the legitimation of DTC social media activates in Europe by Andrew Spong STweM blog and consultancy [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: andrewspong</title>
		<link>http://stwem.com/2009/12/14/the-pachyderm-in-the-parlour/#comment-795</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jonathan

Thank you for stopping by to leave a comment.

The point you raise is absolutely germane to the consideration of this issue from a global perspective, namely: to what are we referring to when we talk of &#039;DTC&#039;?

All three of the definitions you offer could be said to pertain.

If you want specifics within the EU, you have to refer to the codes of practice for the promotion of medicine for the country in question. Links are collated on the EFPIA site:

http://www.efpia.eu/Content/Default.asp?PageID=296

That&#039;s only the black and white, however; there are innumerable shades of grey.

Where, for example, does this post on the UK ABPI&#039;s site sit along this spectrum? (see the paragraph entitled &#039;the Informed Patient Initiative&#039;). Is it a guideline? Is it a comment?

http://www.abpi.org.uk/publications/publication_details/expert_patient/power_point_otherInfo.asp

Then there&#039;s the Danish journalist who probably thought his blogging in no way, shape or form resembled DTC advertising. Unfortunately for him, the Danish judicial system thought it did:

http://www.burrillreport.com/article-1381.html

What can we conclude from the above?

I think we have to begin by conceding that &#039;DTC&#039; means something different just about everywhere. To me, it is conclusive evidence that the EU can&#039;t just look to America for the FDA&#039;s forthcoming guidance when it comes to consider its own stance(s). It has to make up its own mind(s).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonathan</p>
<p>Thank you for stopping by to leave a comment.</p>
<p>The point you raise is absolutely germane to the consideration of this issue from a global perspective, namely: to what are we referring to when we talk of &#8216;DTC&#8217;?</p>
<p>All three of the definitions you offer could be said to pertain.</p>
<p>If you want specifics within the EU, you have to refer to the codes of practice for the promotion of medicine for the country in question. Links are collated on the EFPIA site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.efpia.eu/Content/Default.asp?PageID=296" rel="nofollow">http://www.efpia.eu/Content/Default.asp?PageID=296</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s only the black and white, however; there are innumerable shades of grey.</p>
<p>Where, for example, does this post on the UK ABPI&#8217;s site sit along this spectrum? (see the paragraph entitled &#8216;the Informed Patient Initiative&#8217;). Is it a guideline? Is it a comment?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abpi.org.uk/publications/publication_details/expert_patient/power_point_otherInfo.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.abpi.org.uk/publications/publication_details/expert_patient/power_point_otherInfo.asp</a></p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the Danish journalist who probably thought his blogging in no way, shape or form resembled DTC advertising. Unfortunately for him, the Danish judicial system thought it did:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.burrillreport.com/article-1381.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.burrillreport.com/article-1381.html</a></p>
<p>What can we conclude from the above?</p>
<p>I think we have to begin by conceding that &#8216;DTC&#8217; means something different just about everywhere. To me, it is conclusive evidence that the EU can&#8217;t just look to America for the FDA&#8217;s forthcoming guidance when it comes to consider its own stance(s). It has to make up its own mind(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Time to make the case for social media in European healthcare - whydot pharma</title>
		<link>http://stwem.com/2009/12/14/the-pachyderm-in-the-parlour/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Time to make the case for social media in European healthcare - whydot pharma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] social media arena. My #hcsmeu co-founder and collaborator Andrew Spong and I do not believe that DTC is the right framework to approach social media, in general and especially in [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Richman</title>
		<link>http://stwem.com/2009/12/14/the-pachyderm-in-the-parlour/#comment-792</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article, Andrew. Question for clarification: how do you define DTC?

I have seen that it&#039;s defined quite differently both in different countries and among people in the same company. To one, it might mean directly advertising a specific brand to a patient. To another, it might mean setting up a non-product-specific community. To a third, it might mean ANY communication with a patient, branded or unbranded.

It&#039;s a critical distinction, as people take sides on your very thought-provoking question. I&#039;ll reserve my answer until I hear yours, so I can ensure I&#039;m answering the right question.

Thanks,
JMR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Andrew. Question for clarification: how do you define DTC?</p>
<p>I have seen that it&#8217;s defined quite differently both in different countries and among people in the same company. To one, it might mean directly advertising a specific brand to a patient. To another, it might mean setting up a non-product-specific community. To a third, it might mean ANY communication with a patient, branded or unbranded.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a critical distinction, as people take sides on your very thought-provoking question. I&#8217;ll reserve my answer until I hear yours, so I can ensure I&#8217;m answering the right question.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
JMR</p>
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		<title>By: andrewspong</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Alain

Thanks for your comment. With new times come new tools. With new tools come new expectations. It is not a given that DTC advertising has a right to exist within social media in the USA, regardless of how it is regulated.

Social media creates conversation, builds trust, and facilitates interaction. It&#039;s a relational space, not a transactional one. Pharma should look at the ways in which it can use social media to rebuild its shattered reputation rather than attempt to influence sales.

Long-term advocacy is going to achieve a lot more than short-term sales campaigns. You can&#039;t do both. In social media, there&#039;s one shouldn&#039;t even attempt if you want to be taken seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alain</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. With new times come new tools. With new tools come new expectations. It is not a given that DTC advertising has a right to exist within social media in the USA, regardless of how it is regulated.</p>
<p>Social media creates conversation, builds trust, and facilitates interaction. It&#8217;s a relational space, not a transactional one. Pharma should look at the ways in which it can use social media to rebuild its shattered reputation rather than attempt to influence sales.</p>
<p>Long-term advocacy is going to achieve a lot more than short-term sales campaigns. You can&#8217;t do both. In social media, there&#8217;s one shouldn&#8217;t even attempt if you want to be taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Ochoa</title>
		<link>http://stwem.com/2009/12/14/the-pachyderm-in-the-parlour/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alain Ochoa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree, Andrew. I don&#039;t know if DTC advertising has proven any benefit in the US. From a European point of view, as long as it should not be a &quot;consumer&#039;s decision&quot; kind of purchase but an informed medical prescription, I still don&#039;t see the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, Andrew. I don&#8217;t know if DTC advertising has proven any benefit in the US. From a European point of view, as long as it should not be a &#8220;consumer&#8217;s decision&#8221; kind of purchase but an informed medical prescription, I still don&#8217;t see the point.</p>
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